Why are we getting ripped off in Europe? - Guild Wars Forums

Phantium · May 06, 2005, 10:08 PM // 22:08

I just found out that the European servers aren't really that much European, they are located in USA and that's why we have lag sometimes.
Atleast i do, i find this very pathetic. As they call it EUROPE!

They could atleast get some servers here in europe, so we don't have as much lag. But i'm pretty sure that won't happen, as bandwidth is cheaper in USA becouse the connections there are somewhat crappy.

I'm pretty pissed about this, and i'm sure more will follow.

Information on the server ip range to prove this:

OrgName: NC INTERACTIVE, INC.
OrgID: NCINT
Address: 6801 North Capital of Texas Hwy 5b. Org Address:Building
Address: 1
City: Austin
StateProv: TX
PostalCode: 78731
Country: US

NetRange: 206.127.144.0 - 206.127.159.255
CIDR: 206.127.144.0/20
NetName: NCINT
NetHandle: NET-206-127-144-0-1
Parent: NET-206-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Assignment
NameServer: NCDNS01.NCAUSTIN.COM
NameServer: NCDNS02.NCAUSTIN.COM
Comment:
RegDate: 2004-10-01
Updated: 2004-10-25

Vynn · May 06, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Speak for yourself.

I'm having no problems and I'm as European as one gets.. well, I hate the EU, but I'm European so.

Principa Discordia · May 06, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10

I play on the European districts and I can't say that I notice any network lag at all 90% of the time. When I do, I just transit to the district with the highest # to be honest.

Then again I rarely even lag on the odd occasions that I've tripped to the international servers.

Phantium · May 06, 2005, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Have you ever been to the US? If not, then how could you hate it if you don't even know how it is over there. I'm not asking for your opinion about the US either, i'm just trying to point out that we can lag more. And might as well play on the other server since it's all the same.

Phantium · May 06, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Well me and several other people have gotten disconnected while in a mission many times, so theres no way to change the district then.

I have 8Mbit internet btw.

Principa Discordia · May 06, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14

I think I'm going to side with Vynn when he said "speak for yourself", I don't think this is as major or as wide-spread a problem as it's being made out.

Edit: I'm on a 1Mbit connection with a terrible and crippling upload of 16Kb/s by the way. If I have it sweet then there's definitely something wrong with your line/ISP.

Phantium · May 06, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20

My ISP is fine.

You just don't get what i'm trying to point out here, why call it EUROPE if it's not?

nvm...

Principa Discordia · May 06, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Erm, nobody is flaming. We're just saying that so far it seems you're the only one suffering from massive lag and that maybe it's not a server-side issue.

Witchfinder General · May 06, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23

Nobody agrees with you so you want the thread closed? Nobody has done any flaming and the only angry tone is in your posts.

Phantium · May 06, 2005, 10:25 PM // 22:25

I feel like it'll happen, i'm not saying it is happening. And yes, i'm angry since they never announced such a thing. Shouldn't have called it European then.

For the note, i don't have massive lag and never said so.

Devil's Dictionary · May 06, 2005, 10:27 PM // 22:27

They call it "Europe" because it's for people who live in Europe. Because it's the "Europe" side of Worlds-at-War.

Vynn · May 06, 2005, 10:27 PM // 22:27

My connection is 1024/256, and I'm not saying it is not lagging at times, but it is really rare. Having said that though, I thought the servers where situated in Europe too

I'm Scandinavian btw.

Phantium · May 06, 2005, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vynn

My connection is 1024/256, and I'm not saying it is not lagging at times, but it is really rare. Having said that though, I thought the servers where situated in Europe too

I'm Scandinavian btw.

Thanks, that was my whole point of this thread, doesn't need to be closed either. I'm just hoping people understand what i'm trying to say here.

And yes i know it's European's side of the war, but still... Why not put servers in Europe while your at it? NCSoft is a big company and they could easily afford it.

Principa Discordia · May 06, 2005, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantium

For the note, i don't have massive lag and never said so.

I'm sorry, I just assumed from the excessive tone of your post and your description of server disconnects that your lag was massive.

If it's not then what exactly is the problem again?

Phantium · May 06, 2005, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Principa Discordia

If it's not then what exactly is the problem again?

Just at times i get lagged out and get kicked back to the login screen, mostly in missions for ascense. I finished them now, but my whole team had gotten kicked out, not just me. And sometimes we just simply lagged and our screen froze for like 2 minutes and we could continue to play again...

Yet again, that could be server lag. But i don't think so.

Edit: Also, i can't help it either. But i'm a perfectionist, if you have a network make sure the connection isn't laggy. I'm a network administrator myself, and i'm not going to sit on a chair and look.

Loviatar · May 06, 2005, 10:39 PM // 22:39

there is a difference between the official location and the rest of the setup --quit whineing and look up the info

Guild Wars will have many servers located at data centers around the globe. The location or number of servers really doesn't impact you as a gamer, though, because Guild Wars is specifically designed to present you with a seamless gameplay experience. When you set up your account, you will choose a "world" in which to start. You will most likely choose the world that is closest to you geographically and where most of the players who speak your language are playing. But no matter which world you and your friends select, you will be able to play with and against players from anywhere by traveling to the International District, which you reach by using the drop-down menu in the upper left of the interface. As you are probably aware, Guild Wars tournaments also involve participants from all regions and all areas of the world.

In order to give the best possible service to players around the world, we have established server data centers. At present there is one in North America, one in Europe, and one in Korea. Over time there will be more data centers, all designed to give players the fastest and most efficient service during downloads and during gameplay.

Phantium · May 06, 2005, 10:42 PM // 22:42

For the note, it's a mess on the european servers. People speak all kinds of languages and try to get into your group and they'll just think you can understand them.

I myself don't have much trouble with it, but some others do.

I'm not whining either, for the note learn to make normal sentences so i can read them without having to blink 20 times. /cough

Principa Discordia · May 06, 2005, 11:10 PM // 23:10

Axe-grinding.

Sidra Meum · May 07, 2005, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Did it ever occur to you.. that they are planning to place connections or more connections in Europe at some point in time? That is just wasnt something planned at the release of the game because they didnt know how popular the game would be in other countries?

May 06, 2005, 10:08 PM // 22:08	#1
Phantium Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Netherlands Guild: Europe United [EU] Profession: W/Mo	Why are we getting ripped off in Europe? I just found out that the European servers aren't really that much European, they are located in USA and that's why we have lag sometimes. Atleast i do, i find this very pathetic. As they call it EUROPE! They could atleast get some servers here in europe, so we don't have as much lag. But i'm pretty sure that won't happen, as bandwidth is cheaper in USA becouse the connections there are somewhat crappy. I'm pretty pissed about this, and i'm sure more will follow. Information on the server ip range to prove this: OrgName: NC INTERACTIVE, INC. OrgID: NCINT Address: 6801 North Capital of Texas Hwy 5b. Org Address:Building Address: 1 City: Austin StateProv: TX PostalCode: 78731 Country: US NetRange: 206.127.144.0 - 206.127.159.255 CIDR: 206.127.144.0/20 NetName: NCINT NetHandle: NET-206-127-144-0-1 Parent: NET-206-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Assignment NameServer: NCDNS01.NCAUSTIN.COM NameServer: NCDNS02.NCAUSTIN.COM Comment: RegDate: 2004-10-01 Updated: 2004-10-25

May 06, 2005, 10:14 PM // 22:14	#6
Principa Discordia Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England.	I think I'm going to side with Vynn when he said "speak for yourself", I don't think this is as major or as wide-spread a problem as it's being made out. Edit: I'm on a 1Mbit connection with a terrible and crippling upload of 16Kb/s by the way. If I have it sweet then there's definitely something wrong with your line/ISP. Last edited by Principa Discordia; May 06, 2005 at 10:16 PM // 22:16..

May 06, 2005, 10:20 PM // 22:20	#7
Phantium Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Netherlands Guild: Europe United [EU] Profession: W/Mo	My ISP is fine. You just don't get what i'm trying to point out here, why call it EUROPE if it's not? nvm... Last edited by Phantium; May 06, 2005 at 10:26 PM // 22:26..

May 06, 2005, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#2
Vynn Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005	Speak for yourself. I'm having no problems and I'm as European as one gets.. well, I hate the EU, but I'm European so.

May 06, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10	#3
Principa Discordia Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England.	I play on the European districts and I can't say that I notice any network lag at all 90% of the time. When I do, I just transit to the district with the highest # to be honest. Then again I rarely even lag on the odd occasions that I've tripped to the international servers.

May 06, 2005, 10:12 PM // 22:12	#4
Phantium Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Netherlands Guild: Europe United [EU] Profession: W/Mo	Have you ever been to the US? If not, then how could you hate it if you don't even know how it is over there. I'm not asking for your opinion about the US either, i'm just trying to point out that we can lag more. And might as well play on the other server since it's all the same.

May 06, 2005, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#5
Phantium Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Netherlands Guild: Europe United [EU] Profession: W/Mo	Well me and several other people have gotten disconnected while in a mission many times, so theres no way to change the district then. I have 8Mbit internet btw.

May 06, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23	#8
Principa Discordia Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England.	Erm, nobody is flaming. We're just saying that so far it seems you're the only one suffering from massive lag and that maybe it's not a server-side issue.

May 06, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23	#9
Witchfinder General Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	Nobody agrees with you so you want the thread closed? Nobody has done any flaming and the only angry tone is in your posts.

May 06, 2005, 10:25 PM // 22:25	#10
Phantium Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Netherlands Guild: Europe United [EU] Profession: W/Mo	I feel like it'll happen, i'm not saying it is happening. And yes, i'm angry since they never announced such a thing. Shouldn't have called it European then. For the note, i don't have massive lag and never said so.

May 06, 2005, 10:27 PM // 22:27	#11
Devil's Dictionary Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Presumed missing... Profession: Me/N	They call it "Europe" because it's for people who live in Europe. Because it's the "Europe" side of Worlds-at-War.

May 06, 2005, 10:39 PM // 22:39	#16
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	there is a difference between the official location and the rest of the setup --quit whineing and look up the info Guild Wars will have many servers located at data centers around the globe. The location or number of servers really doesn't impact you as a gamer, though, because Guild Wars is specifically designed to present you with a seamless gameplay experience. When you set up your account, you will choose a "world" in which to start. You will most likely choose the world that is closest to you geographically and where most of the players who speak your language are playing. But no matter which world you and your friends select, you will be able to play with and against players from anywhere by traveling to the International District, which you reach by using the drop-down menu in the upper left of the interface. As you are probably aware, Guild Wars tournaments also involve participants from all regions and all areas of the world. In order to give the best possible service to players around the world, we have established server data centers. At present there is one in North America, one in Europe, and one in Korea. Over time there will be more data centers, all designed to give players the fastest and most efficient service during downloads and during gameplay.

May 06, 2005, 10:42 PM // 22:42	#17
Phantium Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Netherlands Guild: Europe United [EU] Profession: W/Mo	For the note, it's a mess on the european servers. People speak all kinds of languages and try to get into your group and they'll just think you can understand them. I myself don't have much trouble with it, but some others do. I'm not whining either, for the note learn to make normal sentences so i can read them without having to blink 20 times. /cough

May 06, 2005, 11:10 PM // 23:10	#18
Principa Discordia Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: England.	Axe-grinding.

May 07, 2005, 03:41 AM // 03:41	#19
Sidra Meum Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005	Did it ever occur to you.. that they are planning to place connections or more connections in Europe at some point in time? That is just wasnt something planned at the release of the game because they didnt know how popular the game would be in other countries?